Ancestors of Frank E. Masland IV

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He was butler to King Edward 1 (The Confessor).

Extracted from A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Commoners ofGreat Britain and Ireland, Vol III, pp. 19-22, and ix, John Burke,published by Henry Colburn, London, n.d.

DENNE, OF KENT AND SUSSEX.

DENNE, WILLIAM-JOHN, esq. of Winchelsea, in Sussex, b. in 1788; m. inJuly, 1817, Mary-Jane, daughter of
Major Alexander ORME, of the East India Company's Bengal service, andhas an only child, MARY-JANE.
Mr. Denne succeeded his father in January, 1819.

Lineage.

The Dennes were established in Kent, antecedently to the Conquest, bya Norman,

ROBERT DE DENE, who held large estates in Sussex and Kent, as well asin the duchy, and was Pincerna
or butler to EDWARD the Confessor. His son and heir,

ROBERT DE DENE, was father of

RALPH DE DENE, living in the time of WILLIAM, the Conqueror, lord ofBuckhurst, in Sussex, who wedded
Sybella, sister of Robert de GATTON, and had a son, ROBERT, his heir,and a daughter, ELLA,* m. to
Sir Jordan SACKVILLE, ancestor of the dukes of Dorset.

* This Ella, who inherited by will from her father Buckhurst and otherestates in Sussex, in her widowhood
endowed Bayham Abbey. See charter in the British Museum, by which shegives permission to the abbot
and community to remove their establishment from their convent atOtteham, founded by her father
Ralph Dene, to Bayham.

This Ralph de DENE, who possessed large estates in Kent and Sussex,founded Otteham Abbey, for monks
of the Premonstratensian order. His son and successor,

ROBERT DE DENE, inherited the Kentish estates. He married, and had,with two daughters, Alice, who endowed
Bayham Abbey, and Agnes, wife of -- De Icklisham, was s. by his son,

WILLIAM DE DENN, of Denn Hill, in the Parish of Kingston on BarhamDowns, Kent, who
was succeeded by his son,

SIR ALURED DE DENN, of Denn Hill, a person of great learning,seneschal of the Priory of Canterbury, and
escheator of Kent Anno 1234, who was appointed by HENRY VII. toenforce, in conjunction with Sir Henry
de Bath, the laws of Romney Marsh. He was succeeded by his son,

WALTER DENNE, of Denne Hill, living in 1256, whose son, another

WALTER DENNE, of Denne Hill, alive in the 9th EDWARD I. [1281] wasfather of

JOHN DENNE, of Denne Hill, in 1308, who was s. by his son,

SIR WILLIAM DENNE, knt. of Denne Hill, who sat in Parliament for thecity of Canterbury 19th EDWARD II.
[1326] and for the county of Kent in the 14th of the following reign[1341]. Sir William espoused Elizabeth,
daughter and co-heiress of Hamo de GATTON, of ??oughton, and left ason and successor,

RICHARD DENNE, of Denne, living in the (?)6th RICHARD II. [1383?]whom. Agnes, daughter of --
APULDREFIELD, of Challock,* and had four sons, THOMAS, Michael, John,and Robert; of
whom the eldest,

* "This ancient family," says Philpot, "descended from Henry deAPULDREFIELD, of Apuldrefield,
in Coudham, who was in the catalogue of those eminent Kentishgentlemen who were engaged with
RICHARD I. at the siege of Acre, in Palestine."

THOMAS DENNE, of Denne Hill, wedded Isabel, daughter and heir ofRobert de (?)ARDE, and had (with a
younger son, Thomas, who died issueless in 1468), his successor,

JOHN DENNE, of Denne Hill, who m. Alice, daughter of Richard ARDREN,and had issue,

MICHAEL, his heir.
Thomas, of Kingston, who m. Agnes, daughter of William ESHEHURST, andhad an only daughter and heiress,
AVIS, m. to John CRISPE, of Quicks, in the Isle of Thanet.
Parnell, m. to William KEALE.

The elder son,
MICHAEL DENNE, esq. of Denne Hill, living in the reigns of EDWARD IV.and HENRY VII. [1461-1483 and
1485-1509] espoused Christiana COOMBE, of Lymne, an heiress, and hadissue,

I. THOMAS, his heir.
II. William.
III. John, of Lymne, Kent, who m. and had four sons, viz.
1. Michael, of Lymne, who d. in 1559, leaving issue.
2. Henry, mentioned in his brother Michael's will.
3. John, m. and had issue.
4. Peter, m. and had issue.
I. Isabella, m. to Simon QUILTER.

The eldest son,
THOMAS DENNE, esq. of Denne Hill, left by Alice ESHEHURST, his wife,three sons, viz.

I. THOMAS, of Denne Hill, who m. Alicia, daughter of Thomas METT, esq.and had a son and heir,

ROBERT DENNE, esq. of Denne Hill, who m. Thomasin, daughter and heirof Thomas DANE, esq. of
Herne, and left (with four younger sons and two daughters, Mary, m. toEdward OSBORNE, of Hartlipp,
see Tylden, of Milsted and Torr‚ Hill, vol. ii. p. 383, and Silvester,to Thomas COPPIN, of Minster,
in Thanet) a son and successor,

THOMAS DENNE, esq. of Denne Hill, recorder of Canterbury, reader ofthe Inner Temple,
and M.P. for Canterbury 21st JAMES I [ca 1624]. He m. Dorothy, dau. ofJohn TANFIELD,
esq. of Margareting, in Essex, and dying in 1656, left issue,

1. THOMAS, of Gray's Inn, d. s. p.
2. John, of the Inner Temple, barrister at law, buried in the TempleChurch anno 1648, s. p.
1. Thomasin, m. to Sir Nicholas CRISPE, of Quicks.
2. Bridget, m. to Sir John DARELL, of Calehill.
3. Dorothy, m. to Roger LUKYN, esq.
4. Mary, m. to Vincent DENNE, sergeant at law, recorder of Canterbury,and M. P. for Kent, who became,
jure uxoris, "of Denne Hill." He d. in 1693: she in 1701, leaving fourdaughters, viz.

DOROTHY, who had the Wenderton estates, and m. Thomas GIRDER, esq.
MARY, m. to Stephen NETHERSOLE, esq. of Nethersole.
HONEYWOOD, who inherited the Tarmested estate, which was sold by herhusband, Gilbert KNOWLES,
esq. to Thomas HARRIS, of Canterbury.
BRIDGET, of Denne Hill, m. Robert BEAKE, gent. by whose heirs DenneHill was sold about 1730.
It is now (1836) the seat of General Sir Henry MONTRESOR.

II. WILLIAM, of whom presently.
III. James, of Marley, who d. at Kingston in 1574, leaving issue, byAgnes his wife.

The second son of Thomas DENNE, of Denne Hill, by Alice ESHEHURST hiswife,

WILLIAM DENNE, esq. of Kingston, in Kent, proprietor of extensiveestates in that county, espoused
Agnes, daughter of Nicholas TUFTON, esq. of Northiam Place, in Sussex,great grandfather to the first
earl of Thanet, and by her, who died in 1588, had issue,

I. VINCENT, of Kingston, LL.D. m. Joan KETTELL, of London, and dyingin 1591, left

1. JOHN, of Gray's Inn, barrister at law, m. Lucy, daughter of WalterAylworth, esq. of St. Stephens,
and had, with two sons who d. s. p. four daughters, the youngest,Joan, m. Henry JOHNSON, esq.
2. William, of Kingston and Burstead, in Bishopsbourne, ancestor ofthe DENNES, of Elbridge,
now extinct in the male line, but represented through female descentby DENNE DENNE, esq.
of Elbridge.
3. Thomas, of Canterbury, m. Susan, daughter and co-heir of ArthurHoneywood, esq. of Lenham,
and had issue,

VINCENT, sergeant at law, M.P. who married as above, his relative,Mary Denne, of Denne Hill.
He died leaving four daughters, his co-heirs.
William, | both living in 1663.
John, |
Elizabeth, m. to her cousin, Vincent NETHERSOLE, esq. of NethersoleHouse, Kent.

4. Henry, of London, merchant, and of Dane House, Kent, d. in 1613.
5. Vincent.
1. Elizabeth, m. to Vincent NETHERSOLE, esq. of Nethersole.
2. Jane, m. to William DENNE, esq. of Bishopsbourne.

II. THOMAS, of whom presently.
I. Mary, m. first, to John COPPIN, esq.; and, secondly, to ThomasBOYS, esq. of Eythorne.
II. Catherine, m. to Thomas GOOKIN, esq. of Ripple Court, Kent.

William DENNE (who m. Agnes TUFTON) d. in 1572, and by his will,proved at Canterbury, John
COPPYN, esq. and Sir Henry CRIPP [CRISP?] knt. trustees, devisedproperty at Adisham, Well, and
Beaksbourne, to his second son,

THOMAS DENNE, esq. a bencher of Lincoln's Inn in 1590, who m. Jane,daughter of John SWIFT, esq.
of Essex and London, and had (with several younger children, for whomsee Visitation)

I. HENRY, of Adisham, a civilian and bencher of Lincoln's Inn, livingat the Visitation in 1619. He
wedded Mary, daughter of John HYDE, esq. of London, and had an onlychild, Helen or Elinor
who d. unmarried in 1669.
II. JOHN, of whom hereafter.
III. William, of Bishopsbourne, who m. his cousin Jane, daughter ofVincent DENNE, esq. LL.D. and
d. in 1616, leaving issue.

The second son,
JOHN DENNE, esq. baptized at Beaksbourne 6th July, 1578, living in1619 at the visitation
of Kent, was of Patricksborne Court Lodge, in that county. He m. andleft, with a younger son,
William, baptized at Adisham, the residence of his grandfather, in1620, and a daughter, Elizabeth,
b. in 1624, his successor,

JOHN DENNE, esq. of Patricksbourne Court Lodge, b. in 1619, who d. in1690, aged seventy-one, and
was buried at Patricksbourne, leaving, by Elizabeth his wife, threesons, viz.

I. DAVID, his heir.
II. Thomas, of Braboren Court, which he purchased in 1700.
III. John, born at Patricksbourne in 1668.

The eldest son,
DAVID DENNE, esq. of Bishopsborne, b. at Patricksborne 15th October,1662; m. Sarah, relict of the
Rev. Mr. SHIPWASH, of Wye, and died in 1702, aged thirty-nine, leavinga daughter, Elizabeth, m.
to Thomas HOGBEN, and a son,

THOMAS DENNE, esq. of Lydd, b. in February, 1701, who married in 1741Sarah, daughter and
co-heir* of Thomas GREENLAND, esq. of Lydd, and had by her, who d. atLydd, in 1783, five
sons and two daughters, viz.

* Mary, the other daughter and co-heir m. Mark SKINNER, esq. of Lydd,and left one
daughter, Mary, m. first, to Chamberlen HOPKINS, esq. and, secondly,to General
Thomas MURRAY, son of Sir David MURRAY, of Stanhope.

I. JOHN, of Bath, b. in 1748, m. Miss Anna-Maria HEBLEWHITE, and d. in1828, s. p.
II. RICHARD.
III. David, of Lydd, who m. Katherine, daughter of Robert COBB, esq.and d. in 1819, leaving issue,

1. David, of Lydd, who m. Louisa-Anne, daughter of the late Rev.Thomas COBB, of Ightham,
and has issue.
2. Thomas, of the Temple.
1. Elizabeth, m. to the Rev. William VALLANCE, of Sittingbourne.
2. Cecilia, m. to the Rev. Mr. NARES.
3. Katherine.
4. Mary-Julia.

IV. Thomas, who d. unmarried in 1783, aged twenty-seven.
V. William, in the army, d. unmarried in 1783, aged twenty-one.
I. Sarah, m. John PORKER, esq. of Muswell Hill, a banker in London,and dying in 1808, left issue,
1. John PORKER, of London.
2. Mary PORKER, m. to Sir John PETER.
3. Elizabeth Porker, m. to General George COOKSON, R. A.
4. Caroline Porker, m. to James ATKINSON, esq. of Russell Square, andd. in 1810.
5. Emily Porker, m. to General Sir Alexander BRYCE, R. E.
II. Elizabeth, m. to Richard RUCK, esq. of Gravesend, and d. s. p.

Mr. DENNE d. in 1777, possessed of considerable property at Lydd andRomney Marsh, in Kent, and at
Winchelsea and in Sussex. His second but eldest son to leave issue,

RICHARD DENNE, esq. of Winchelsea, wedded, in 1783, Mary, daughter ofWilliam STEER, esq. of
Northampton, by Anne his wife, daughter of the venerable WilliamRASTALL, D.D. dean of Southwell,
a lineal descendant of Chief Justice RASTALL, and had issue,

WILLIAM-JOHN, his heir.
Richard-Greenland, of the Inner Temple, barrister-at-law.
Anna-Maria, of Broadstairs.
Frances, m. to Captain Ernest-Christian Welford, of the RoyalEngineers.
Mary-Jane, m. to Robert-William Newman, esq. of Mamhead, in Devon,late M.P. for Exeter.

Mr. Denne d. in January, 1819, and was s. by his eldest son, thepresent WILLIAM-JOHN DENNE, esq.

Arms--Quarterly, first and fourth, az. three bars erm. in chief, asmany fleurs de lys, or,
(coat granted to Thomas DENNE, esq. in 1580); second and third, azure,three leopards' heads
couped or.

Crest--On a chapeau vert, turned up erm. a demi peacock, wingsexpanded and elevated ppr.
This crest was also granted in 1580, but has not been used from timeimmemorial.

Estates--Romney Marsh and Wareham, in Kent; Winchelsea, Icklesham,Rye, &c. &c. in Sussex.
From Page ix, ALTERATIONS AND ADDITIONS:

DENNE OF KENT AND SUSSEX. P. 20. Although several writers stateWILLIAM
DENNE, the first of Denne Hill, to be descended from Ralph de DENE,the
father of ELA, who married Sir Jordan SACKVILLE, yet the Dorset Rollcalls
Ela co-heiress with her sister or niece Sybella, and she is in Collinsand
elsewhere mentioned as co-heiress of her brother Robert. The DorsetRoll
also assigns a different coat of arms to Ralph than that borne by the
DENNES of Denne Hill.
15 Eliz (1573) E 134/15Eliz/Trin1 Records of the Exchequer: King'sRemembrancer: Depositions taken by Commission. "The Queen v. Thos.DENNE: House and land in Kingston, supposed to be chantry house ofKingston, whether belonging to Thos. DENNE formerly, and to Sir H.CRISPE and John CRISPE.: Kent" (Combs &c. of the PRO - E Series)

707266560. Peter De Arderne Sir,² son of Walkelin De Arderne Sir ² and Agnes De Orrby,² was born about 1241 in Aldford, Chester, Cheshire, England and died about 1292 about age 51.
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707266562. Griffith Ap Madoc Lord Bromfield,² son of Madoc Ap Griffith Lord Bromfield ² and Gwyladys Verch Ithel,² was born about 1218 in Powis, M, Wales,^² died on 7 Dec 1269 in Castle of Dinas Bran, Lower Powys, Wales^² about age 51, and was buried in Abbey of Llanegwest.^² Another name for Griffith was Gruffydd Maelor II.

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His name is also shown as Gruffudd ap Madog, Prince of Powys
Fadog. He was Lord of Bromfield, attached to King Henry III

Griffith married Emma De Audley ²Emma was born about 1218 in Heleigh Castle, Audley, Staffordshire, England.^²

Emma married Griffith Ap Madoc Lord Bromfield ²Griffith was born about 1218 in Powis, M, Wales,^² died on 7 Dec 1269 in Castle of Dinas Bran, Lower Powys, Wales^² about age 51, and was buried in Abbey of Llanegwest.^² Another name for Griffith was Gruffydd Maelor II.

707266564. William De Venables,² son of Roger De Venables ² and Alice De Peninton,² was born in 1245 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England^² and died in 1300 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England^² at age 55.

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Sir William Venables died 20 of Edward I (1292). His name appears onseveral deeds, the first of which bears the date of 1267. He marriedMargaret, daughter of Sir Thomas Dutton. He restored to the monks ofChester the advowson of Astbury, of which his father had despoiledthem, and died the year following. He was married in 1253 and hadHugh, Sir William and a daughter, Cecelia

William married Margaret De Dutton ²Margaret was born in 1254 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England^² and died in 1344^² at age 90.

Margaret married William De Venables ²William was born in 1245 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England^² and died in 1300 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England^² at age 55.

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William Mobberley, Lord of Mobberley, married Maud Downes, daughterand heir of Robert Downes of Chorley, juxta Werford. He was Sheriff ofCheshire in 1319 and had issue Raufe, Cicely m. John Dumbill,Elizabeth m. Hugh Venables (you come from him by his 2nd wife,Katherine Houghton), Margaret m. Richard Bold, Emma m. RichardGrovenour, Mary m. Nicolas Leycester, Joan m. Wm. Arthurton, Ellen m.Richard Bromhale, and Agnes unmarried. William sealed usually with thecoat of arms above. He died 1327 and his widow married John Dumbill,Sr.
Source:"Kin of Mellcene Thurman Smith" Call Number: CS71.S643

William married Maude Downes ²Maude was born about 1264 in Chorley, Northwich, Cheshire, England.

707266567. Maude Downes,² daughter of Robert Downes and Margaret Fitton, was born about 1264 in Chorley, Northwich, Cheshire, England.
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707608850. Ranulph* de Glanville Justiciar of England, son of Hervey de Glanville Sir and Matilda, was born about 1122 in Eye, Suffolk, England and died on 12 Oct 1190 in Seige of Acre, Palestine about age 68.

General Notes: Founded Abbey of Butley.
Chief Justiciar of England during King Henry II.
Ambassador to Flanders

Ranulph* married Bertha de ValoinesBertha was born about 1125 in Parham, Plomesgate, Suffolk, England and died after 1208 in Bowsley, Antley, Suffolk, England.

353804425 i. Maud de Glanville (born in 1147 in Bowsley, Antley, Suffolk, England)

707608851. Bertha de Valoines, daughter of Theobald de Valoines Lord of Parham, was born about 1125 in Parham, Plomesgate, Suffolk, England and died after 1208 in Bowsley, Antley, Suffolk, England.

General Notes: WILLIAM PECCHE was in 1086 an undertenant in Essex, Suffolk andNorfolk. In 1088 he had a grant from the Abbot of Ramsey of Over,Cambs for the lives of himself and his wife Alfwen. He married,
1stly, Alfwen, and, 2ndly, Isilia, probably daughter and heir ofHervey de Bourges, who survived him. The date of his death is notknown. [CP 10:331]

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Baron of Dunmow

Robert, 5th son of Richard FitzGilbert, Earl of Clare (ancestor of theEarls of Hertford), being steward to King Henry I, obtained from thatmonarch the Barony of Dunmow in Essex, as also the honour of BaynardCastle, in the city of London, both of which came into the possessionof the crown by the forfeiture of William Baynard. This Robert m. in1112, Maud de St. Liz, Lady of Bradham, dau. of Simon de St. Liz, 1stEarl of Huntingdon, and by her, (who d. in 1140, m. 2ndly, Saer deQuincy) had two sons, Walter, his successor, and Simon, to whom hegave Daventre, in Northamptonshire. He d. in 1134, and was s. by hiselder son, Walter FitzRobert. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant,Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883,p. 212, FitzWalter, Barons FitzWalter]

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Robert, steward to King Henry I, m. Maud, dau. of Simon de St. Liz,Earl of Huntingdon, and had Walter Fitz-Robert, whose son, RobertFitz-Walter, was one of the most distinguished of the barons whorebelled against John, and was stuled, Marshal of the Army of God andHoly church. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant and Extinct Peerages, Burke'sPeerage, London, 1883, p. 118, Clare, Lords of Clare, Earls ofHertford, Earls of Gloucester]

Robert* married Maud De St. Liz ²Maud was born about 1095 in Tunbridge, Kent, England^² and died in 1140 in Belvoir Castle, Leicestershire, England^² about age 45.

707608869. Maud De St. Liz,² daughter of Simon* de St. Liz and Maud, was born about 1095 in Tunbridge, Kent, England^² and died in 1140 in Belvoir Castle, Leicestershire, England^² about age 45.

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Maud m. 1st, Robert, son of Richard de Tonbridge, and 2ndly, toWilliam de Albini, according to Dugdale, but Hornby, in his remarksupon Dugdale's errors, proves that such alliances, if not impossible,were very improbable. A Maud de St. Liz is mentioned as wife of Saierde Quincy, being father and mother of Saier, 1st Earl of Winchester.[Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages,Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883, p. 468, St. Liz, Earls ofHuntingdon]

Maud married Robert* Fitz Richard ²Robert* was born about 1075 in Tunbridge, Kent, England,^² died in 1134 in Little Dunmow, Essex, England^² about age 59, and was buried in Priory of St Neot, England.^²

707608870. Richard* de Lucy ² was born about 1098 in Diss, Norfolk, England^² and died on 14 Jul 1179 in Chipping Ongar, Essex, England^² about age 81.

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The first mention of this family is in a render made by King Henry Iof the lordship of Dice, in Norfolk (whether in requital of services,or as an inheritance, the record saith not) to Richard de Lucie, whowas governor of Falais, in Normandy, temp. King Stephen, and defendedthat place with great valour when besieged by Geoffrey, Earl of Anjou,for which heroic conduct he had a grant of lands in the county ofEssex with the services of divers persons, to hold by ten knights'fees. In the subsequent contest between Stephen and the Empress Maud,he remained steady in his allegiance to the former and obtained avictory of some importance near Wallingford Castle. Upon theadjustment of the dispute, the Tower of London and the castle ofWinchester were, by the advice of the whole clergy, placed in thehands of this feudal lord, he binding himself by solemn oath and thehostage of his son to deliver them up on the death of King Stephen toKing Henry, which, being eventually fulfilled, Richard de Lucy wasconstituted sheriff of Essex and Hertfordshire in the 2nd of Henry II,A.D. 1156, and in three years afterwards, being with the king inNormandy, he was despatched to England to procure the election ofThomas à Becket, then lord chancellor, to the archiepiscopal see ofCanterbury, vacant by the death of Theobald, Abbot of Becco. Soonafter that he was appointed to the high office of Justice of England.In the 12th of this reign [1166], upon the aid then assessed formarrying the king's dau., he certified his knights' fees (lying in thecos. of Kent, Suffolk, and Norfolk) de veteri feoffamento, to be innumber seven, and that his ancestors performed the service of CastleGuard at Dover, for the same, as also that he held on knight's feemore, de nova feoffamento, in the co. Devon.

About this time Becket, having fled into Normandy from the power ofKing Henry, came to Wiceliac to celebrate the feast of the ascension,and observing several persons of distinction present, amongst whom wasthis Richard de Lucie, he ascended the pulpit and there, with lightedcandles, pronounced the sentence of excommunication against them allas public incendiaries betwixt the king and himself, but being neitherconvicted nor called to answer, they appealed and entered the church.Soon after this (13th Henry II) during a temporary absence of the kingbeyond sea, de Lucie was constituted Lieutenant of England, and againin 1173, when the Earl of Leicester and others having reared thestandard of rebellion in behalf of Prince Henry, he besieged, inconjunction with Reginald, Earl of Cornwall, the town of Leicesterand, having reduced it, demolished its walls and laid it in ashes.
In 1178, he founded the priory of Westwode in the diocese of Rochesterin honour of St. Thomas, of Canterbury, the martyr, and began, aboutthe same time, the foundation of the priory of Lesnes, in Kent, whichhe munificently endowed. In this priory he subsequently assumed thehabit of a canon regular and departing this life soon after (about22nd Henry II) [1176], and was buried in the chapter-house there.

He m. Rohais ---, and had issue, Geffrey, who d. in his father'slifetime, leaving Richard, his son and heir, who departing this life,s. p., before 1196, the inheritance devolved upon his aunt, Rohais;Hubert, who had the lordship of Stanford, in Essex, and hundred ofAngre, for his livelihood, but d. s. p.; Maude, m. 1st to WalterFitz-Robert, to whom she brought the lordship or Dice, and 2ndly, toRichard de Ripariis, and d. 27th Henry III, 1243, leaving issue;Rohais, m. 1st, to Fulbert de Dover, Lord of Chilham, in Kent, and2ndly, Richard de Chilham. This Rohais, upon the decease of hernephew, succeeded to the estates of her elder brother and, upon thedeath of her younger brother, Hubert, she had livery of the wholebarony on paying a fine to the crown in the 9th King John [1208]. [SirBernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages,Burke's Peerage Ltd, London, England, 1883), pp. 335-6, Lucy, BaronsLucy]

Richard* married Rohese Fitz Richard de Clare ²Rohese was born in 1090 in Tunbridge, Kent, England^² and died in 1179 in Holy Trinity Church, London, England^² at age 89.

707608871. Rohese Fitz Richard de Clare,² daughter of Richard Fitz Richard de Clare Abbot of Ely, was born in 1090 in Tunbridge, Kent, England^² and died in 1179 in Holy Trinity Church, London, England^² at age 89.

Rohese married Richard* de Lucy ²Richard* was born about 1098 in Diss, Norfolk, England^² and died on 14 Jul 1179 in Chipping Ongar, Essex, England^² about age 81.

729939968. Walter* Fleming,² son of Saher The Fleming, was born about 1030^² and died after 1068.^²

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Walter de FLANDERS ( WOODHULL), born 1030, was a Companion to William,"the
Conqueror," at the Battle of Hastings, in 1066.

729940016. Robert Malet Baron,² son of Gilbert Malet Baron, was born about 1088 in Barony Curry Malet, Somerset, Eng^² and died before 1156.^²

364970008 i. William* Malet ² (born about 1125 in Barony Curry Malet, Somerset, Eng - died in 1169 in Barony Curry Malet, Somerset, Eng)

729940018. Hugh de Mortimer Lord of Wigmore, son of Ralph* de Mortimer and Milicent Ferrers, was born about 1090 in Abby Nigmou, Herefordshire, England and died between 1148 and 1150.

William married Adelheid Of Brabant ² in 1138.² Adelheid was born about 1103^² and died on 23 Apr 1151^² about age 48.

364971119 i. Maud De Saint Hilary ² (born in 1132 in Dalling, Norfolk, England - died in 1195 in Norfolk, England)

Aveline married James De Saint Hilary ²James was born in 1107 in Dalling, Norfolk, England^² and died in 1154^² at age 47.

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William III Talvas, died 30 June 1171, Count of Alencon & Ponthieu,son of Robert II de Belleme, 3rd Earl of Shrewsbury, Seigneur ofBelleme, Domfront and Alencon, born between 1052 and 1056, died 8 May,not earlier than 1131, by his wife, Agnes, living 1100, daughter ofGuy I, died 1100, Count of Ponthieu and Montreuil. [Ancestral Roots]

i. Guy Montgomery Count of Ponthieu ²⁴¹ ^,315 was born in 1118 of Ponthieu, France^²⁴¹ and died in 1147 in Ephesus on way to Holy Land^{²⁴¹^,315} at age 29.

ii. Ela de Alencon ²⁴¹ ^,316 ^,317 was born about 1120 in Alencon, Orne, France^²⁴¹ and died on 4 Oct 1174^{²⁴¹^,317} about age 54.

iii. Clemence de Alencon ²⁴¹ was born BET AND 1120 in Alencon, Orne, France.^²⁴¹

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Alice (or Ela) of Burgundy, died 1194/5; married (1) Bertrand, Countof Toulouse; married (2) William III Talvas, died 30 June 1171, Countof Alencon & Ponthieu, son of Robert II de Belleme, 3rd Earl ofShrewsbury, Seigneur of Belleme, Domfront and Alencon, born between1052 and 1056, died 8 May, not earlier than 1131, by his wife, Agnes,living 1100, daughter of Guy I, died 1100, Count of Ponthieu andMontreuil. [Ancestral Roots]

Alice next married Bertrand Count of Toulouse ²⁴¹ ^,299 in 1st husband ²⁴¹.^,299 Bertrand was born about 1095 in Toulouse, Haute-Garonne, France^²⁴¹ and died in 1112^²⁴¹ about age 17.

Imagina married Godfried of Brabant IIIGodfried was born in 1139 in Louvain, Brabant, FRA, died on 21 Aug 1190 at age 51, and was buried in St. Peter's Church, Louvain, Brabant, FRA.

General Notes: [jweber3.FTW]

David I (b. c. 1082--d. May 24, 1153, Carlisle, Cumberland, Eng.), oneof the most powerful Scottish kings (reigned from 1124). He admittedinto Scotland an Anglo-French (Norman) aristocracy that played a majorpart in the later history of the kingdom. He also reorganized ScottishChristianity to conform with continental European and English usagesand founded many religious communities, mostly for Cistercian monksand Augustinian canons.

The youngest of the six sons of the Scottish king Malcolm III Canmoreand Queen Margaret (afterward St. Margaret), David spent much of hisearly life at the court of his brother-in-law King Henry I of England.Through David's marriage (1113) to a daughter of Waltheof, earl ofNorthumbria, he acquired the English earldom of Huntingdon andobtained much land in that county and in Northamptonshire. WithAnglo-Norman help, David secured from his brother Alexander I, king ofScots from 1107, the right to rule Cumbria, Strathclyde, and part ofLothian. In April 1124, on the death of Alexander, David became kingof Scots.

David recognized his niece, the Holy Roman empress Matilda (died1167), as heir to Henry I in England, and from 1136 he fought for heragainst King Stephen (crowned as Henry's successor in December 1135),hoping thereby to gain Northumberland for himself. A brief peace madewith Stephen in 1136 resulted in the cession of Cumberland to Davidand the transfer of Huntingdon to his son Earl Henry. David, however,continued to switch sides. While fighting for Matilda again, he wasdefeated in the Battle of the Standard, near Northallerton, Yorkshire(Aug. 22, 1138). He then made peace once more with Stephen, who in1139 granted Northumberland (as an English fief) to Earl Henry. In1141 David reentered the war on Matilda's behalf, and in 1149 heknighted her son Henry Plantagenet (afterward King Henry II ofEngland), who acknowledged David's right to Northumberland.

In Scotland, David created a rudimentary central administration,issued the first Scottish royal coinage, and built or rebuilt thecastles around which grew the first Scottish burghs: Edinburgh,Stirling, Berwick, Roxburgh, and perhaps Perth. As ruler of Cumbria hehad taken Anglo-Normans into his service, and during his kingship manyothers settled in Scotland, founding important families andintermarrying with the older Scottish aristocracy. Bruce, Stewart,Comyn, and Oliphant are among the noted names whose bearers went fromnorthern France to England during the Norman Conquest in 1066 and thento Scotland in the reign of David I. To these and otherFrench-speaking immigrants, David granted land in return for specifiedmilitary service or contributions of money, as had been done inEngland from the time of the Conquest. [Encyclopaedia Britannica CD'97]

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Upon the death of Simon de St. Liz, Earl of Huntingdon andNorthampton, David, son of Malcolm III, King of Scotland, had m. thedeceased earl's widow, the Countess Maud, under the especial sanctionof King Henry I. This nobleman succeeded to the Scottish throne on thedecease of Alexander, his elder brother, in 1124, and, invadingEngland, was met upon the border by King Stephen, when theirdifferences were amicable adjusted. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant,Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd.,London, 1883, p. 468, St. Liz, Earls of Huntingdon]

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on the history of the Earldom of Huntingdon:

After Earl Simon's [Matilda's 1st husband] death, his Widow marriedDavid I of Scotland, who consequently became Earl of Huntingdon too,keeping the Earldom even after he succeeded his brother as King ofScots. He sided with the Empress Maud against Stephen I but came toterms with the latter and made the Earldom over to his son Henry.[Burke's Peerage]

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Earl of Huntingdon. United Alba with Strathclyde. Earl of Northampton.Popularly reputed as a Saint, his feast day is 24th May. [BrianTompsett, Directory of Royal Genealogical Data -http://www.dcs.hull.oc.uk/public/royal]

EARLDOM OF NORTHAMPTON
III. 2.
EARLDOM OF HUNTINGDON

III. 3. DAVID I of Scotland, 6th and youngest son of MALCOLM III(Canmore), KING OF SCOTLAND (died 1093), by St. Margaret, only sisterof Edgar ATHELING, was born about 1080. In consequence of his marriagehe became EARL OF HUNTINGDON, and possibly of NORTHAMPTON also. In1113 he founded an Abbey at Selkirk, afterwards removed to Kelso, andgave it (then or a little later) land at Hardingstone and Northampton.His charter, some years later in date, was witnesscd. by Maud his wifeand their son Henry. He founded another Abbey at Jedworth in 1118. AsEarl of Huntingdon he made various grants to St. Andrew's,Northampton. He succeeded his brother, Alexander I, as King ofScotland 25 April 1124. He retained his English earldom, and onaccount of it joined in 1127 in the Barons' recognition of the rightof the Empress Maud to succeed her father on the throne of England.When, therefore, Stephen seized the crown, David took arms againsthim, but peace was made about March 1136, David resigning the Earldomof Huntingdon in favour of his son Henry, who did homage to Stephen.War breaking out again, David was defeated at the Battle of theStandard, 22 August 1138. He married, in 1113, Maud, widow of Simon DEST. LIZ, EARL OF HUNTINGDON. She died in 1130 or 1131, and was buriedat Scone. He died 24 May 1153, at Carlisle, and was buried atDunfermline.
[CP 6:641-2]

The Scots Peerage, vol I, page 3 has:

"DAVID I. 'the Saint', youngest son of Malcolm Ceannmor; born about1080; married about 1113-14 Matilda, daughter and heir of Waltheof,earl of Huntingdon, granddaughter of Siward, Earl of Northumberland,and widow of Simon de St Liz. He died at Carlisle 24 May 1153, agedabout
seventy-three, and was buried at Dunfermline. His wife Matilda,according to Fordun, died 1130-31, and was buried at Scone; but sheappears in a charter c. 1147. By her he had
"1. Malcolm, said to have been strangled when a child by Donald Bane."

Donald Bane was the brother of David I's father Malcolm III 'Ceannmor'and succeeded Malcolm III as king but Donald Bane was deposed byMalcolm's eldest son Duncan II. After Duncan II's death, Donald Banewas king again, to be deposed, again, by Malcom III's fourth son Edgarwho imprisoned Duncan Bane and put his eyes out.

--
Tim Powys-Lybbe tim@powys.org

434672036 i. Henry* of Scotland (born in 1114 in Scotland - died on 12 Jun 1152 in Scotland)

Maud next married Simon* de St. LizSimon* died in 1111 and was buried in Priory of La Charité.

707608869 i. Maud De St. Liz ² (born about 1095 in Tunbridge, Kent, England - died in 1140 in Belvoir Castle, Leicestershire, England)

869344074. William* De Warenne II, son of William* De Warenne and Gundred, was born in 1071 in SSX, ENG, died on 11 May 1138 at age 67, and was buried in Chapter House, Lewes, SSX, ENG.
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869344075. Isabel De Vermandois ² was born in 1081 in Valois, Bretagne, France^² and died on 13 Feb 1131 in St. Nicaise, Meulan, France^² at age 50.
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910163968. Adam* De Berthelot ¹⁷³ ^,208 ^,303 was born about 1046 in Normandy, France,^²⁰⁸ died in 1077 in Stopham, West Sussex, England^²⁰⁸ about age 31, and was buried in Stopham Church.^²⁰⁸

General Notes: [bartlett3.FTW]

It is to Liseux and the country surrounding it along the River Touquesin Normandy that we must turn to pick-up the thread of our history,for it was there in the fateful year 1066 that Adam de Berthelot wasliving as a minor nobleman.
Liege overlord for the district was Count Guido de Brionne - a memberof the de Brionne family, Dukes of Burgundy - whose castle known as"Brionne" stood a mile or so from Liseux and is to-day harked by thesmall town of the same name. Not far away there also lived theMontgomery family, close friends of Guillaume, Duke of Normandy, andas will be seen as this history unfolds the Roger de Montgomery fromhere was to become an influential friend of those close to him afterthe Norman invasion of England, where this same Roger became known as"Arundel".
When the Duke of Normandy took the decision to carry out that invasionand gathered together an army for the purpose, virtually all who owedhim allegiance (as well as others invited to participate for a sharein the spoils!) were called upon to assemble, bringing with them menand materials.
Among those so commanded was Guido de Brionne, who in turn gatheredtogether all those sworn to serve him: it is known that one of thesewas Adam de Berthelot, who is understood to have been chosen by deBrionne as his personal esquire as well to have brought familyretainers with him. That appointment as esquire demanded a ratherspecial oath of fealty and service to be sworn by Adam, carrying withit as was the custom a two-way obligation on the part of both deBrionne and Berthelot.
When the invading army was assembled, de Brionne and his contingent,including Adam de Berthelot was put under the immediate command ofRobert de Mortaine but in what we might term the division led by Odo,Bishop of Bayeux. Robert and Odo were brothers and, importantly fortheir future and the future of those close to them, were alsohalf-brothers trusted by the Duke of Normandy. After the successfulinvasion of England these family connections were to prove extremelybeneficial to Berthelot and others.
And so it was that when the Normans came ashore on the beaches ofPevensey near Hastings in Sussex, on Michaelmas Day 29th September1066, not only was the name Berthelot amongst them, but with him, thecoat-of-arms bearing the left handed glove commemorating the event oftwo hundred years earlier.
The bloody battle of Hastings that followed ended as history tells us,with the death of Harold Godwinnson who had claimed the English thronefor himself, and a great many killed and wounded on both sides. TheAnglo-Saxon army was defeated, with the invaders in control of keyparts of England from which to set about the country's completesubjugation.
This was not achieved quickly however; those to whom land and propertybelonged continued to resist Normans who came to take it away, whilstthere was still plenty of fight left in other parts with tribes ofWales, Clans in Scotland and marauding Scandinavians ever eager totake advantage of any opportunities to plunder!
Even before being crowned King of England, Duke Guillaume had madeplans for exercising the controls he knew were essential in aconquered country, and he wasted no time putting these in place. Hedid not disband all his army but retained the best fighting men andtheir commanders when he could be sure would carry out his wishes.
The record shows that Adam de Berthelot was amongst the first to begiven land, receiving 6000 acres along the River Arun in Sussex,stretching from Northam to, and including, the hamlet of Stopham afterwhich the estate was named. That he was not retained for militaryservice and got the grant so soon and able to take up residence therenot long after, all point to him having received injuries in thebattle severe enough to incapacitate him, whilst the nature of thegrant suggests he enjoyed influential patronage presumably from deBrionne and Mortaine since the Roger de Montgomery, also in theircompany, was given the huge estates that became part and parcel of theEarldom of Arundel, making him a next-door neighbour to Adam deBerthelot in Sussex!
However there is another dramatic piece of evidence of the regard withwhich Adam must have been held, this being the inclusion of his nameupon the list of those chosen by King William himself to make up whatwas termed his "Roll of Honour" and accordingly inscribed upon thewalls of the Abbey the King had built at Hastings to -for ever-commemorate both his victory there and those who had served him wellin the battle that is, upon the walls of Battel (sic) Abbey.
Readers will have noted the change in spelling of "Guillaume" to"William", and this brings us to so many of the changes made inEngland to Norman names as the result of the Anglo-Saxon scribesputting into written form the sounds being heard out of Norman mouths.
Not just the King's name was Anglicised but so also were such othersas de Brionne, which became "de Bryan"; Mortaine that ultimatelybecame "Martyn"... and de Berthelot that became "de Bartelot"!
With no more than a few thousand men to control the whole of England,the King introduced a system that centralised his authority in a waynever before achieved, and which turned into a single, cohesive nationthose who had previously bickered and fought amongst themselves. Whathe did was to remain in place for hundreds of years, bringing about asocial structure clearly recognisable today.
Annulling all existing land and property ownership, and afterdeclaring one-third of all England to be "Royal Estate" owned by theCrown, King William then gave the remaining two-thirds to only elevenNormans either related or trusted and close friends.
Those so chosen became immediately extremely powerful, with vastestates that included control and authority over the people that livedwithin their boundaries, and presenting what on its face was anenormous administrative responsibility for them.
The King was both a realist and a pragmatist: he knew that in a newlyconquered country still in a state of flux, attitudes and loyaltiescould change very quickly... Especially towards himself! He did twothings that, above all else, ensured the continuation of his newsystem of governing England.
The first of these was to make very sure that each of the elevenreceived individual estates that were not only relatively small butseparated from the rest by distance and scattered all over England,making it impossible for any of them to collect together a very largeforce without knowledge of it reaching royal ears!
The difficulties of looking after so many relatively small estates allover the place the King overcame by giving permission to these elevenpremier Earls and Dukes the right to themselves appoint "householdknights" who could be sworn to loyalty to their respective overlords.And to give to these knights and their descendants properties which,in effect, were then held by grace of that overlord. The Knightsbecame responsible for administering and looking after such grants andfor collection of taxes demanded by the Earl or Duke from whom thegrant was received.
This tiered arrangements known as the "Feudal System", enabled theKing to impose taxes and manpower needs upon the eleven who in turnimposed them... plus whatever was required for their own upkeep...upon the enfeoffed Knights.
It was within this scenario that Adam de Bartelot and other Normansproceeded to make new lives in an atmosphere that would have beenlargely hostile and made it essential for the possession of land toremain in their hands. It was to remain a matter of tradition for along time, that no Norman male property owner should permit a daughterto marry an Anglo-Saxon for fear of this situation changing. Generallyat first there were very few marriages to local women either becauseof this matter of land ownership or as the result of distrust anddislike for the conquerors, although this disappeared after a while.
Given these attitudes, and knowing from records that at the time ofhis death Adam had two sons at least in England, both old enough tohold property, it can be assumed that he was joined at Stopham by awife who came from Liseux. The couple may well have had otheroffspring but if so nothing has been recorded to evidence this was thecase.
In order to trace the path which is to lead us to America we shall beconcentrating upon these two sons of Adam, the elder of whom wasbaptised Robert with his younger brother named Radolphus, morefamiliarly recorded as "Ralph", but before doing this - and because ofthe long-term effects the bonds first forged between Adam and the deBryans were to have upon all that followed, it is necessary for us toachieve a more detailed appreciation of just what happened to Guy deBryan and his family.
As is known, de Bryan was one of those retained by the King to Commandhis soldiers and this is evidenced clearly in the then contemporary"Anglo-Saxon Chronicles" begun in the reign of King Alfred (871-99)and completed in 1154.
Those chronicles tell us of the landing at the mouth of the River Tawin North Devon of an Irish army under the leadership of dead HaroldGodwinnson's sons in the year 1069... only three years after theNorman arrival. When King William heard of that landing he ordered Guyde Bryan to march there with all haste and to drive the Irish off. TheChronicles report:-
"After this came Harold's sons from Ireland at Midsummer withsixty-four
ships into the mouth of the Taw and went unexpectedly inland. EarlBryan
came upon them unawares with no small host, fought with them andkilled
all the best men in that fleet, the other small host fled out to theships.. and
Harold's sons went back to Ireland."

It was certainly a victory for Earl de Bryan.. but one for which he,and many of his male successors, were to pay dearly, for not only washe immediately sent off to fight the Welsh but the precedent was setfor future de Bryans to be consistently and repeatedly called upon toserve their monarchs in army or navy until finally no males remainedto carry on the de Bryan name!
Just how far this tradition influenced the family's future is nobetter illustrated than by King Edward I's elevation of the then Guyde Bryan to the rank of "Baron Tallatharn" with the gift to him ofTallatharn Castle in the Marches of Wales... along with a command thatde Bryan not leave the place until the Welsh tribes had been subdued!As we know that was to take centuries! Historical records naming deBryans and their achievements leave no doubt but that their menfolkwere allowed scant time to look after either their families or theirmany estates.
In spite of the family's relatively short period of existence that somuch information should exist about it is due to its eminence assoldiers etc.; in similar circumstances other families have virtuallydisappeared from the record books without trace!
From the list of properties (and it is unlikely to be complete) ownedby the de Bryans, it can be seen that they were widely distributed andwould have required some form of localised supervision in nearly eachcase; besides which those were extremely dangerous times when therewas always someone ready to take advantage of any failure bylandowners to safeguard their properties. It follows without questionthat de Bryans not only had to appoint others to do this in theirname, but because of their own absences that those chosen to do thiscould be entirely trusted. It has to be remembered that in the deBryans' case it was often not just property that had to be protected,but their womenfolk and children!
With Guy de Bryans esquire and special companion, Adam de Bartelot,now a landowner himself - and in any event incapacitated - it waslogical and in complete accord with fealty expectations that thefather's sworn duty should be undertaken by his elder son, Robert.Probably so much a matter of honour as to make refusal unthinkable,nevertheless the promise of adventure and personal advancement thatwould surely have accompanied a position of such trust must havelooked irresistible to any young Norman man whose father was stillalive and occupying the family estate.
We should here take note of some of the marriages entered into bymembers of the de Bryan family because of what these tell us about itsstanding and influence.. factors that would have loomed large toRobert.
Elizabeth de Bryan married William Montacute, Earl of Salisbury; Maudede Bryan married Nicholas Martyn (Mortaine) of Waterston Manor,Piddleton, Dorset, an estate to figure large in our story; Phillipamarried (i) Sir John Devereux & (ii) Sir Henry le Scrope; Elizabethwed Sir Robert Lovell and her daughter, Matilda, became Countess ofArundel; whilst Avril married the Earl of Wiltshire and Ormond. Suchconnections were capable of extending family influence to the monarchyitself!
It can come as no surprise to anyone that Robert chose as he did byaccepting - as his father had done before him - a role of trustedsteward to the de Bryan family with the power to assure thecontinuation of loyalty to that family by his appointment of his ownsons and relatives to the various estates.
The scenario represented by what we now know includes Adam's deathcirca 1077, agreement between his two sons by which the younger wasgiven the family property, Stopham, by the elder Robert who wasalready sworn to serve the de Bryans and had elected to continue withthem. It should also be noted that Robert even permitted his youngbrother Ralph to take unto himself the descriptive title "de Stopham"as well as a separate coat-of-arms in which the traditional threeleft-handed gloves were replaced by crescents. Because crescents arethe correct "blazons" to be used by younger sons, this substitutionwas entirely correct.
In effect, what had taken place was the establishment of two branchesof the same family - one continuing to use the family name de Bartelotwith the other able to describe itself as "de Stopham"; each had itsown coat-of-arms but sharing the same descent.
Although this might cause some minor confusion for the researcher, itbecame resolved and clarified in 1379 when Joan de Stopham married hercousin John de Bartelot and both took up residence at Stopham to adopta coat-of-arms composed of both gloves and the crescents as aquartering.
Adam de Berthelott was seventh in descent from Prince Berthelot,nephew to Charlemagne.

ii. Ralph* De Stopham ¹⁸⁴ ^,208 ^,319 was born about 1066^²⁰⁸ and died after 1086 in Stopham, Sussex, England.^{¹⁸⁴^,208^,319} Another name for Ralph* was Radolphus.

General Notes: [Master File.ftw]

Champenois, count of Blois, Champagne, Brie and Chartres alliedw/Gedouin of Saumur to challenge Fulk Nerra; cf. PlantagenetChronicles, ed. Hallam

950038760. Robert* Of Leicester De Beaumont Earl,² son of Roger* De Pont-Audemer De Beaumont Seigneur ² and Adelina,² was born about 1046 in Beaumont, Normandy,^² died on 5 Jun 1118 in Préaux, Normandy, France^² about age 72, and was buried in St. Pierre-de-Préaux.^²

General Notes: [Master File.ftw]

1st? Earl Leicester; Count of Meulan, in the Vexin-Francais, Sire deBeaumont, Pont-Audemer, and Brionne, in Normandy

EARLDOM OF LEICESTER

I. 1. ROBERT DE BEAUMONT, SEIGNEUR OF BEAUMONT, PONT-AUDEMER, BRIONNEAND VATTEVILLE in Normandy, and from 1081 COUNT OF MEULAN in theFrench Vexin, son and heir, born circa 1046. When very young heaccompanied Duke William to England and distinguished himself at thebattle of Hastings, and received large grants of lands in co. Warwick,with smaller holdings in cos. Leicester, Northants, and Wilts. On 14July 080, as Robert de Bellomonte, he witnessed the foundation charterof Lessay, and next year he inherited from his mother's family thecomté of Meulan. Thereafter he is continuously styled Count (Comes) ofMeulan. After the death of the Conqueror he adhered to William Rufus,and was high in favour at his court. He quarrelled with Robert ofNormandy about the castellanship of Brionne, in consequence of theexchange of Brionne for Ivry made by his father. He was imprisoned,but was released at the intercession of his father Roger, whoeventually succeeded in obtaining Brionne in fee. He succeeded to thegreater part of his father's lands in Normandy, including Beaumont,Pont-Audemer, Vatteville and Brionne. This paternal inheritance, addedto his French comté and his great possessions in cos. Warwick andLeicester, made him one of the most powerful vassals of the Crown. Hebecame one of the chief lay ministers of William Rufus, with whom hesided against
Robert Courtheuse in 1098, and when William invaded the French Vexinin 1097 he received his troops in his fortresses of the comté ofMeulan. After the death of William Rufus he became one of the chiefadvisers of Henry I. On the death of Ives de Grandmesnil on Crusade,Robert retained his estates, which Ives had mortgaged to him circa1102. Thereby he acquired one-quarter of the town of Leicester, thewhole of which was later granted to him by the King. Robert thus addedlargely to his already vast possessions. In 1104 he was one of theNorman barons who adhered to Henry on his arrival in Normandy. He waspresent in the King's army at Tenchebrai, 28 September 1106. In 1110he was besieged at Meulan by Louis VI, who took the castle by storm,but in the following year he retaliated by a raid on Paris, which heplundered. After obtaining the whole town of Leicester he is said tohave become EARL OF LEICESTER, but, being already Count of Meulan, wasnever so styled. There is no contemporary record that'he had the thirdpenny of the pleas of the county, but he doubtless acquired, with theGrandmesnil fief, the third penny of the issues of the Mint atLeicester. He married, in 1096, Isabel, called also Elizabeth,daughter of Hugh DE CREPl, called Hug "le Grand," COUNT OF VERMANDOIS.He died 5 June 1118, and was buried with his ancestors in the chapterhouse of Préaux. His widow married, very shortly after his death,William (DE WARINNE), EARL OF SURREY.
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Accompanied William the Conqueror in the invasion of England in 1066,and having greatly distinguished himself at the Battle of Hastings,was rewarded with vast possessions in England, receiving ninety onegreat lordships or manors, mostly in Warwickshire. Upon the death ofhis mother in 1081 he became Comte de Meullant in France, about 1107was probably created Earl of Leicester in
England by Henry I., and d. 5 June 1118, aged nearly eighty years. (P)He m. (1) GODECHILDE DE TOENI, daughter of Ralph de Toeni, Seigneur deConches in Normandy; they had no children and were divorced. (P) He m.(2), about 1096, ISABEL DE VERMANDOIS, daughter of Hugh the Great,Comte de Vermandois in France.
--- J Gardner Bartlett, *Newberry Genealogy*, Boston, 1914, p 5 He wasmarried to ISABEL OF VERMANDOIS in 1096.

From: "Earldoms In Fee"

EARLDOM of LEICESTER

Robert de Beaumont, heir of a prominent Norman Family, was with theConqueror at Hastings and received large grants of land inWarwickshire, and to a lesser extent in the county of Leicester andelsewhere. In the year 1081 he inherited through his mother the Comte'of Meulan (Mellent) and became generally known as Count of Meulan.Succeeding later to his father's large inheritance in Normandy, hebecame one of the wealthiest vassals of the Crown, both in England andin Normandy. He took the side of William II and later, with hisbrother, was prominent in securing Henry's accession. He was greatlytrusted by that King.

Ivo de Grandmesnil, who had been a strong supporter of Robert ofNormandy when the latter invaded England at the instigation of hispartisians in the baronage, was the holder of a considerable fief inthe county of Leicester and also had a quarter interest in therevenues of the borough. Grandmesnil's confiscated Leicesterinterests, after peacehad been made between Henry and Duke Robert,were given in custody to Robert de Beaumont. Ivo then agreed tomortgage these interests to Robert de Beaumont provided the latterwould use his influence with the King for Ivo's rehabilitation andwould in the meantime provide Ivo with funds to go on Crusade. TheKing was adroitly persuaded by Robert of Mellent not only to grant himIvo's Leicester interest (at the King's disposition as a result ofIvo's part in rebellion), but to give him also the royal interest inthe rest of the Leicester borough farm. Robert is said then to havebecome Earl of Leicester. There is no comtemporary record of hiscreation or of any use of this title, and doubt has accordingly beenexpressed about the existance of his earldom at this date. (Incharters Robert was described as Comte de Meulan, but never as Earl ofLeicester). The possession by Robert of the earldom can, however, bereasonably inferred from the events immediately following his death.He died on 5 June 1118 and was buried with his ancestors at Preaux,leaving three sons, Waleran and Robert (twins) and Hugh, who is saidlater to have been made Earl of Bedford. If so he was deprived almostat once. (Hugh of Bedford was the weakling of a strong family. Promiseof creation is more likely than actual girding and putting inpossession. In any event it would be lost with the fief in 1141). Asso frequently happened on the death of a great tenant-in-chief duringthe first century after the Conquest, the Norman and french fiefs andthe English fiefs were separated. The former went to the elder twinWaleran, who was thenceforth styled Count of Meulan, while the latterwent to Robert, the younger twin. Robert is found styling himself Earlof Leicester as early as 1119. He was at that time only about fifteenyears of age, so that he was either created an earl at a very tenderage immediately after his father's death (which is unlikely), or wasregarded as succeeding his father in the earldom (which is probable)as well as in the English lands.

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Robert* married Isabel De Vermandois ²Isabel was born in 1081 in Valois, Bretagne, France^² and died on 13 Feb 1131 in St. Nicaise, Meulan, France^² at age 50.

950038761. Isabel De Vermandois ² was born in 1081 in Valois, Bretagne, France^² and died on 13 Feb 1131 in St. Nicaise, Meulan, France^² at age 50.
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950038833. Maud D'Avranches ² was born in 1054 in Avranches Normandy France.^²

Lucia married Ivo Plantagenet De Tailbois ²Ivo was born about 1036 in Anjou, France^² and died in 1094 in Kendal, Cambria, Eng^² about age 58.

950038836. Henry* 2nd King of England,² ^,154 son of William* King of England ² and Matilda* de Flanders Queen of England,² ^,154 was born in Sep 1068 in Selby, Yorkshire, England,^² died on 11 Dec 1135 in Lyons-la Foret, Normandy, France^² at age 67, and was buried in Reading Abbey, Reading, Berkshire, England.^² Other names for Henry* were Beauclerc, Henry I 'Beauclerc' King of England ¹.^and2
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950038837. Nesta verch Rhys Heiress of Carew ² was born in 1073 in Deheubarth, Wales.^²

Nesta married Henry* 2nd King of England ² ^,154Henry* 2nd King of England was born in Sep 1068 in Selby, Yorkshire, England,^² died on 11 Dec 1135 in Lyons-la Foret, Normandy, France^² at age 67, and was buried in Reading Abbey, Reading, Berkshire, England.^² Other names for Henry* 2nd King of England were Beauclerc, Henry I 'Beauclerc' King of England ¹.^and2

1015022720. Henry* 2nd King of England,² ^,154 son of William* King of England ² and Matilda* de Flanders Queen of England,² ^,154 was born in Sep 1068 in Selby, Yorkshire, England,^² died on 11 Dec 1135 in Lyons-la Foret, Normandy, France^² at age 67, and was buried in Reading Abbey, Reading, Berkshire, England.^² Other names for Henry* were Beauclerc, Henry I 'Beauclerc' King of England ¹.^and2
(Duplicate. See Below)

1015022721. Sybilla Corbet ¹ ^,2 was born in 1077 in Alcester, Warwickshire, England^{¹^,2} and died in 1157^{¹^,2} at age 80.

Sybilla married Henry* 2nd King of England ² ^,154Henry* 2nd King of England was born in Sep 1068 in Selby, Yorkshire, England,^² died on 11 Dec 1135 in Lyons-la Foret, Normandy, France^² at age 67, and was buried in Reading Abbey, Reading, Berkshire, England.^² Other names for Henry* 2nd King of England were Beauclerc, Henry I 'Beauclerc' King of England ¹.^and2

1027606048. Lambert* de Multon ²⁴¹ was born in 1142 in Moulton, Spalding, Lincolnshire, England.^²⁴¹

General Notes: MULTON OF EGREMONT or EGREMOND

This family derived its name from Moulton, near Spalding, inLincolnshire,

LAMBERT DE MULTON, its earliest recorded ancestor, descended at leaston one side from English thegns. In 1142 or 1143 he held 2 carucatesof land in Revesby of William (de Roumare), Earl of Lincoln, by theservice of 1/4 knight's fee, as grandson (and heir) of Brictive, andan oxgang of land under Robert, his wife's father. For these lands theEarl gave him an exchange in Miningsby, near Bolingbroke, and in orbefore 1155 granted to Spalding Priory Lambert's service for the landin Miningsby. Lambert held land in Moulton from the prior's manor ofSpalding, 1/2 knight's fee of the new feoffment in Bourne of the Earlof Lincoln, a lordship in Frankton, land in Weston, and land inSkirbeck and Kirkton from Conan, Earl of Richmond, whose charter toKirkstead Abbey he witnessed at "Wasingburg." Between 1154 and 1156 hewitnessed a charter of Gilbert (de Gand), Earl of Lincoln, to the Deanand Chapter of Lincoln. In 1165 he rendered account in Lincs of anamercement of 100 marks, and in the following year Thomas, his son,accounted for him. He married a daughter of Robert (----), presumablyof Norman blood, possibly Robert BRIWER. He was living in 1166, butthe date of his death is not known. He was buried in Spalding Priory.[CP 396-8, 14:493]

513803024 i. Thomas* de Multon ²⁴¹ ^,296 (born in 1162 in Moulton, Spalding, Lincolnshire, England - died in 1201 in Cumberland, England)

Alice next married Alexander FitzGerold ²⁴¹Alexander was born in 1110 in Kingston, Berkshire, England^²⁴¹ and died in 1178^²⁴¹ at age 68.

i. Henry FitzGerold ²⁴¹ was born about 1140 in Kingston, Berkshire, England^²⁴¹ and died about 1175^²⁴¹ about age 35.

General Notes: [jweber3.FTW]

Hugh's son Hugh participated in the murder of Thomas a Becket, 1170.

i. Richard de Morville Constable of Scotland ²⁴¹ ^,323 ^,325 was born in 1143 in Burgh-by-Sands, Cumberland, England^²⁴¹ and died in 1189 in Kirkoswald, Cumberland, England^{²⁴¹^,323^,325} at age 46. Another name for Richard was Richard de \Moreville\.

ii. Maude de Morville ²⁴¹ ^,305 was born about 1145 in Burgh-by-Sands, Cumberland, England.^²⁴¹ Another name for Maude was Maud de \Moreville\.

1027606068. Robert de Tyndale Baron of South TyneDale ²⁴¹ was born about 1120 in South TyneDale, Northumberland, England.^²⁴¹

ii. Stephen De Beauchamp ² ^,154 was born in 1107^{²^,154} and died in 1170^{²^,154} at age 63.

General Notes: [Master File.ftw]

RALPH DE TOENI IV, styled also DE CONCHES, 2nd but 1st surviving sonand heir, assented with his mother and his elder brother, Roger, tohis father's gifts to St. Evroul. He succeeded his father probably in1102; and in 1103 he was one of the nobles who supported the claim ofRainald de Grancei to succeed to the Barony of Breteuil on the deathof William de Breteuil. In the same year he was a member of thealliance formed by Robert, Count of Meulan, to force Goel d'Ivri torelease his burgher, John of Meulan. He then crossed to England and,being graciously received by the King, obtained his father's lands;and in 1104 he returned to Normandy with Henry, as one of his ardentsupporters. He was in the King's army in Normandy in 1106 and tookpart in the battle of Tinchebrai on 28 September. In 1110 he was withthe King at Romsey. When rebellion broke out in Normandy in 1119, heremained faithful to Henry. About the same time by the King's adviceRalph de Gael gave him Pont-St.-Pierre and the whole valley ofPistres. In 1120 he was with Henry at Rouen. He was a benefactor tothe abbeys of Bec and Conches, and perhaps to the priory of Westacre.He married, in 1103, in England, Alice, younger daughter and coheir ofWaltheof, EARL OF NORTHUMBERLAND, NORTHAMPTON and HUNTINGDON, byJudith (the King's cousin), daughter of Lambert, COUNT OF LENS. Aliceinherited Walthamstow, Essex. Ralph died about 1126 and was buried atConches. His widow gave the church of Walthamstow to Holy Trinity,London, for the salvation of the souls of her son Hugh, who was buriedthere, and her husband.
[CP 12[1]:760-2]

Ralph* married Alice de Huntingdon in 1103 in England.² Another name for Alice is Alice de Huntington.²

513804096 i. Roger* de Toeni III ² (born about 1104 in Conches, Normandy, France - died between 1157 and 1162)

Alice married Ralph* de Toeni IV ² in 1103 in England.² Ralph* died about 1126^² and was buried in Conches, Normandy, France.^²

1037752638. Loigsech of Leix O'Morda King of Loigsi ² ^,154 died in 1149.^{²^,154}

1037752708. Richard* Fitz Gilbert De Clare Earl of Clare,² son of Gilbert* Crispin Count of Brionne ¹ ^,2 and Gunnora D'Anjou,¹ ^,2 was born before 1030 in Beinfaite, Normandy, France^{¹^,2} and died in 1090 in St. Neots, Huntingdon, England.^{¹^,2} Other names for Richard* were "de Bienfaite," Richard Tonebridge FitzGilbert I ¹.^and2

General Notes: [Master File.ftw]

Richard Fitz-gilbert, a lawyer, was the founder of the House of Clairein England. He accompanied William the Conqueror into England andparticipated in the spoils of conquest, obtaining extensivepossessions in the old and new dominion of his royal leader andkinsman. William the Conqueror, being the grandson of Richard, 4thDuke of Normandy, brother of Godfrey. At the time of Domesday surveyhe was called Richard de Tonebruge, now Tunbridge, in Kent, which townhe had obtained from the Archbishop of Canterbury in lieu of theCastle of Brione. At this time he had nearly 200 lordships in variouscounties. One of these lordships was that of Clare, in County Suffolk,which subsequently becoming his chief seat, he became styled Richardde Clare. He married Rohese, or Rohais, daughter of Walter Giffard deBolbec, who assisted in making the "General Survey." He is said tohave fallen in a skirmish with the Welsh and was succeeded by hiseldest son, Gilbert

Richard Fitz Gilbert; also known as "de Bienfaite" (from the quantityof his fiefs), "de Clare" or "de Tonbridge" (from actual fiefs); wentwith his cousin William I the Conqueror to England and was granted 176Lordships, 95 of them associated with the Honour (feudal unit ofadministration) of Clare, Suffolk, and others with Tonbridge, Kent.[Burke's Peerage]

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Richard FitzGilbert, having accompanied the Conqueror into England,participated in the spoils of conquest and obtained extensivepossessions in the new and old dominions of his royal leader andkinsman. In 1073 we find him joined under the designation of Ricardusde Benefacta, with William de Warren, in the great office ofJusticiary of England, with whom, in three years afterwards, he was inarms against the rebellious lords Robert de Britolio, Earl ofHereford, and Ralph Waher, or Guarder, Earl of Norfolk and Suffolk,and behaved with great gallantry. But afterwards, at the time of theGeneral Survey, which was towards the close of William's reign, he iscalled Ricardus de Tonebruge, from his seat at Tonebruge (nowTunbridge) in Kent, which town and castle he obtained from thearchbishop of Canterbury in lieu of the castle of Brion, at which timehe enjoyed thirty-eight lordships in Surrey, thirty-five in Essex,three in Cambridgeshire, with some others in Wilts and Devon, andninety-five in Suffolk, amongst those was Clare, whence he wasoccasionally styled Richard de Clare, and that place in a few yearsafterwards becoming the chief seat of the family, his descendants aresaid to have assumed thereupon the title of Earls of Clare. This greatfeudal lord m. Rohese, dau. of Walter Giffard, Earl of Buckingham, andhad issue, Gilbert, his successor, Roger, Walter, Richard, Robert, adau. m. to Ralph de Telgers, and a dau. mo. to Eudo Dapifer. Richardde Tonebruge, or de Clare, whose is said to have fallen in a skirmishwith the Welsh, was s. by his eldest son, Gilbert de Tonebruge. [SirBernard Burke, Dormant and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, London,1883, p. 118, Clare, Lords of Clare, Earls of Hertford, Earls ofGloucester]

Observations. In the times of the Heptarchy the border fortress ofClare (Suffolk), on the confines of the Kingdoms of East Anglia andEssex, was of the greatest importance, and continued to be so or manycenturies afterwards, when, it was granted by the Conqueror to RichardFitzGilbert. FitzGilbert's successors the earlier Lords of Clare were,"it is implied in the Lords' Reports [vol. iii, p. 124] and elsewhere,styled Earls of Clare before they were Earls of Hertford, butinvestigation disproves this," though doubtless, these Lords, afterthey obtained that Earldom, were according to the usage of the period,frequently styled "Earls of Clare," just as the Earls of Derby werestyled "Earls Ferrers," &c. On account of the great importance ofthese feudal Barons, the earlier Lords of Clare, so frequentlyconsidered to have been actual Peers, a short account of them issubjoined, as under.

HOLDERS OF THE HONOUR OF CLARE

I. 1. RICHARD FITZGILBERT, styled (from his possessions) " DEBIENFAITE," "DE CLARE," and "DE TONBRIDGE, was son of Gilbert, COUNTOF BRIONNE in Normandy, which Gilbert was son and heir of Godfrey,COUNT OF BRIONNE, illegitimate son of Richard, DUKE OF NORMANDY. Hewas born before 1035, was Lord of Bienfaite and Orbec in Normandy,accompanied his kinsman, William the Conqueror, into England, and wasrewarded by him with no less than 176 Lordships, of which 95 were inSuffolk, attached to the Honour of Clare, which honour,, with theCastle of Clare, as also the Castle of Tonbridge in Kent, he obtained,becoming thus Lord of Clare and of Tonbridge. During the King'sabsence he was joint Chief justiciar, and, as such, suppressed therevolt of 1075. He married Rohese, daughter of Walter GIFFARD, theelder, and aunt and heir of Walter [GIFFARD], 2nd Earl of Buckingham,through which match his descendants became co-heirs to the lands ofthat family. He was living 1081, but appears to have died about 1090being buried at St. Neots, co. Huntingdon. His widow was
living, as such, 1113. [CP 3:242, 14:183]

707608868 i. Robert* Fitz Richard ² (born about 1075 in Tunbridge, Kent, England - died in 1134 in Little Dunmow, Essex, England)

518876354 iii. Gilbert* De Fitz Richard Earl of Clare ² (born before 1066 in Clare, Suffolk, England - died between 1114 and 1117 in Tonbridge, Kent, England & Cardigan, Wales)

Rohese married Richard* Fitz Gilbert De Clare Earl of Clare ² about 1054 in England.² Richard* was born before 1030 in Beinfaite, Normandy, France^{¹^,2} and died in 1090 in St. Neots, Huntingdon, England.^{¹^,2} Other names for Richard* were "de Bienfaite," Richard Tonebridge FitzGilbert I ¹.^and2

i. Rohese FitzRichard de Clare ²⁴¹ was born about 1055 in Brione, Normandy, France^²⁴¹ and died in 1121^²⁴¹ about age 66.

ii. Avice de Clare ²⁰³ ^,241 was born about 1058 in Brione, Normandy, France.^²⁴¹

iv. Ronais FitzGilbert de Clare ²⁴¹ was born in 1064 in Chepstow, Monmouthshire, Wales.^²⁴¹

v. Gilbert Fitz Richard de Clare Earl Hertford ²⁴¹ ^,332 ^,333 ^,334 was born before 1066 in Clare, Suffolk, England,^{²⁴¹^,307} died before 1117 of Tonbridge, Kent, England & Cardigan, Wales,^{²⁴¹^,307^,335} and was buried in Lord of Tunbridge, founded Priory of Clare, Lord of Cardigan.^{²⁴¹^,307}

vi. Lord of Dunmow Robert FitzRichard ²⁴¹ ^,336 was born about 1075 in Tunbridge, Kent, England,^²⁴¹ died in 1134 in Little Dunmow, Essex, England^{²⁴¹^,336} about age 59, and was buried in Priory of St Neot, England.^²⁴¹

1037752840. Robert* Duke of Normandy,² ^,154 son of Richard* Duke of Normandy ² and Judith de Brittany,² ^,154 was born in 999 in Normandy, France^² and died on 2 Jul 1035 in Nicea, Bithynia, Turkey^² at age 36. Other names for Robert* were "The Magnificent and" Robert The Devil II Duke of Normandy.²

General Notes: [Master File.ftw]

Robert I (Robert the Magnificent), d. 1035, duke of Normandy(1027-35); father of William the Conqueror. He is often identifiedwith the legendary Robert the Devil. He aided King Henry I of Franceagainst Henry's rebellious brother and mother,
intervened in the affairs of Flanders, and supported Edward theConfessor, then in exile at Robert's court. He also sponsored monasticreform in Normandy. After making his illegitimate son William hisheir, he made a pilgrimage to Jerusalem and died at
Nicaea. Robert the Devil, hero of a medieval legend. He was sold tothe devil by his mother before his birth but upon discovering the factdid penance and was able to purify himself of his many sins. The talemay have been derived from the life of
Robert I, duke of Normandy. The story exists in several French andEnglish versions and is the basis of Meyerbeer's opera Robert leDiable.

Duke of Normandy from 1027 to 1035

Robert* married Herleva De Falaise ¹ ^,2 ^,154Herleva was born in 1003 in Falaise, Calvados, France^{¹^,2} and died in 1050^{¹^,2} at age 47. Another name for Herleva was Arlette.

518876420 i. William* King of England ² (born on 14 Oct 1024 in Falaise, Calvados, France - died on 9 Sep 1087 in Hermentruvilleby, Rouen, France)

General Notes: [Master File.ftw]

[john gray.FTW]

daughter of a tanner
also Herleva

Herleva married Robert* Duke of Normandy ² ^,154Robert* Duke of Normandy was born in 999 in Normandy, France^² and died on 2 Jul 1035 in Nicea, Bithynia, Turkey^² at age 36. Other names for Robert* Duke of Normandy were "The Magnificent and" Robert The Devil II Duke of Normandy.²

1037752844. Duncan* MacCrinan King of Scotland,² ^,154 ^,241 ^,308 son of Crinan the Thane Mormaer ² ^,154 and Bethoc,² ^,154 was born in 1001 in Atholl, Perthshire, Scotland^²⁴¹ and died on 14 Aug 1040 in Elgin, Morayshire, Scotland (killed by Macbeth)^{²⁴¹^,311^,337} at age 39. Another name for Duncan* was the Gracious. Ancestral File Number: 1034-1040.

General Notes: [Master File.ftw]

[john gray.FTW]

Duncan succeeds his grandfather and uncle as ruler of Pictish,Scottish, Anglo, and Briton lands, and further pushes into England in1034. He is killed by MacBeth, the Mormaer (high official) of Moray,who claims the throne through his and his wife's
ancestry. Macbeth seems to have been a good king and went onpilgramage to Rome in 1050.[jweber3.FTW]

Duncan I (d. Aug. 1, 1040, near Elgin, Moray, Scot.), king of theScots from 1034 to 1040. Duncan was the grandson of King Malcolm II(ruled 1005-34), who irregularly made him ruler of Strathclyde whenthat region was absorbed into the Scottish kingdom (probably shortlybefore 1034). Malcolm violated the established system of successionwhereby the kingship alternated between two branches of the royalfamily. Upon Malcolm's death, Duncan succeeded peacefully, but he soonfaced the rivalry of Macbeth, Mormaor (subking) of Moray, who probablyhad a better claim to the throne. Duncan besieged Durhamunsuccessfully in 1039 and in the following year was murdered byMacbeth. Duncan's elder son later killed Macbeth and ruled as KingMalcolm III Canmore (1058-93).

1037752845. of Northumbria Sibyl Biornsson ² ^,154 ^,241 ^,309 was born about 1009 in Northumbria, England^²⁴¹ and died in 1040^{²⁴¹^,338} about age 31.

General Notes: [jweber3.FTW]

Plantagenet Ancestry has Sibyl daughter of Sigurd, but I think it morelikely she was his sister. The dates just seem entirely incompatiblewith her being born that late.

General Notes: Edward the Exile (Outlaw) (Atheling) fled the country and lived at thecourt of Hungary until recalled by his father's half-brother, Edwardthe Confessor. He was never crowned king, as he died in Londonimmediately after his return in 1057, and was buried at St. Paul'sCathedral. While on the continent, he married Agatha of Hungary,daughter of Emperor Henry II. of Germany (Bruno of Germany). Edwardwas the founder of the House of Burgoyne.
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While on the continent (probably in Russia) he married Agatha, calledby some sources niece of Emperor Henry (whether this was Henry II orHenry II is not specified in the original source), but by otherskinswoman of the King of Hungary. Various modern interpretationsinclude that she was daughter of St. Stephen of Hungary (by Gisela,sister of Emp. Henry II), that she was daughter of Bruno of Augsburg(brother of Henry II), that she was daughter of Liudolph of Brunswick(half-brother of Henry
III), or that she was daughter of Yaroslav I of Russia (and hencesister-in-law of Andrew, King of Hungary). The first two can bereadily dismissed. The latter two are still being hotly contested.

This is not true. There are no documented male descendants beyond hisson, or perhaps a grandson, while a female line from his son that wasargued by Manteyer seems to have lost favor. The only commonlyaccepted descent from Edward is through Margaret, wife of Malcolm. Ifby House of Burgoyne you mean Burgundy, one of these was descendedfrom the Capets and the other from King Berenger II of Italy.
"the Outlaw"
Some say he married Agatha daughter of Stephen, and some say Agathawas
the daughter of Henry II of Germany. Stephen is accepted as beingincorrect,
and other more complex relationships have been postulated. One hasbeen shown
here which is attributed to David Boles <bolesd@goya.its.rpi.edu>
Also called Edward the Exile. See also articles by Rene Jette NEHGR150, 96
and Szabolcs de Vajay in Duquesne Review 7.

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